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03-25-2006, 7:25 PM chunky monkey Joined on 02-04-2006 usa Posts 963 short and simple! can anyone just staight out tell simple ingredients to substitute for the purifier and food and where i might be able to get these ingredients in the usa thanx    Report

03-25-2006, 7:46 PM SeaMonkeyMan Joined on 03-15-2006 Texas Posts 456 Re: short and simple! The following is what I believe is in the formula.  Most of this is from the patent I have read, and trial and error in using the formulas. The purifier contains non-iodized salt (you cannot use table salt, the iodine will kill them!), calcium chloride, eggs, and sodium bicarbonate (Baking Soda). I'm not sure where you can get the calcium chloride, but I've done without it just fine. My current brine shrimp tank is using these ingredients. The egg packet contains epsom salt, dye, and sea salts (which can be found at a pet store or Wal-Mart).    Report

03-25-2006, 7:52 PM seamonkeyz Joined on 03-25-2006 Posts 25 Re: short and simple! I like this store http://www.aquaticeco.com/ they also have food but it's $30 but it lasts a long time. http://www.aquaticeco.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.detail/iid/12649/cid/ also, a hydrometer is essential, to check how much salt you have. My water salinity is set to 1.023 right now. and also chemicals to make the PH around 8.2, I bought some powder for that at the petstore.    Report

03-25-2006, 8:31 PM SeaMonkeyMan Joined on 03-15-2006 Texas Posts 456 Re: short and simple! Very true. I keep my salinity at 1.019-1.025. To manage PH, I use baking soda.    Report

03-26-2006, 10:10 AM chunky monkey Joined on 02-04-2006 usa Posts 963 Re: short and simple! i don't need to know what is in the eggs packet cause i can get brine shrimp eggs    whats in the food packet    Report

03-26-2006, 10:10 AM chunky monkey Joined on 02-04-2006 usa Posts 963 Re: short and simple! do you think that they will eat alge waffers    i have some that i feed to my fish    Report

03-26-2006, 11:47 AM darkflame1500 Joined on 03-23-2006 england Posts 171 Re: short and simple! maybe they like plant live!    Report

03-26-2006, 12:11 PM Jules Joined on 02-19-2006 Posts 17 Re: short and simple! here: http://www.netfysh.com/index.html?http://www.netfysh.com/seamonkeys/smproducts.html is a recipe for making your own water purifier. I've never tried it but it might work    Report

03-26-2006, 12:21 PM SeaMonkeyMan Joined on 03-15-2006 Texas Posts 456 Re: short and simple! Can they be ground into a fine powder? If not the sea monkeys won't be able to eat them. I reccommend you find an algae powder at the pet store if you really want to get close to the sea monkey growth food formula. You could of course use yeast as well.    Report

03-26-2006, 12:32 PM darkflame1500 Joined on 03-23-2006 england Posts 171 Re: short and simple! NOOOO!!! you will kill them with yeast i got a handbook with the info and on lots of website that say about there sea mnokeys dieing from using yeast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    Report

03-26-2006, 1:27 PM SeaMonkeyMan Joined on 03-15-2006 Texas Posts 456 Re: short and simple! I see where you are coming from, but actually you can. In fact, The egg packet contains yeast which is why you don't have to feed them for a week. In the many years that I have experimented with this, you are right you can fail, and I have, but it was soley because of the kind of yeast I used. There are several yeast's on the market some that are highly active. Those are the ones you definitely want to avoid. Yeast is a bacteria and the highly active type grows rapidly which can deprive the sea monkeys of oxygen. The idea is to look at the ingredients and make sure it only says yeast. Most yeasts sold today have other ingredients in them, which is why its hard to find a successful tank that is using yeast. If you are lucky enough to find a fine ,pure yeast, then it is safe to use. A while back I had a shortage of sea monkey food because I my cat had the packet all on the floor. I didn'd want to sweep it up and use it, because that was asking for contamination. I used a good brewer's yeast for the time being until I was able to order more food. The tank lived for months, of course until my cat eventually knocked them over. (It was an old Ocean Zoo back in the '90s)    Report

03-26-2006, 1:35 PM darkflame1500 Joined on 03-23-2006 england Posts 171 Re: short and simple! why does the cats always knock the tank over? the same problem happened with checky monkey. so it is safe to use yeast im gonna take up a test to find a good yeast to use. what make do you use?    Report

03-26-2006, 2:10 PM SeaMonkeyMan Joined on 03-15-2006 Texas Posts 456 Re: short and simple! I guess the cats are a little too curious. Mine had kittens and I had to give them all away because I found out I was allergic to cats. As far as the Yeast goes, I use Fleischman's Yeast, but I don't know if it is available in your area. The ingredients on the back merely say "Yeast".    Report

03-26-2006, 7:19 PM Super_Monkey Joined on 03-27-2006 Adelaide, Australia Posts 140 Re: short and simple! My friend feeds her Brine shrimp powdered Spirulina or Brewer's Yeast too. She occasionally mixes them but has had varying results with the yeast and said the Spirulina works the best.    Report

03-26-2006, 8:01 PM SeaMonkeyMan Joined on 03-15-2006 Texas Posts 456 Re: short and simple! Exactly!  I mix the two together as well and find that to be a great substitute. If I could find a could powdered algae, I use that on it's own.    Report

03-27-2006, 2:58 PM chunky monkey Joined on 02-04-2006 usa Posts 963 Re: short and simple! ok for a substitute purifier use non iodized salt and just regular baking soda? for a substitute food use bakers yeast and or powdered alge? do i need to add the sea salt and espom salt that is in the egg packet if i am using just eggs not a packet? and how much of each thing in the purifier and how much of the purifier do i put in for each 12oz.    Report

03-27-2006, 6:47 PM SeaMonkeyMan Joined on 03-15-2006 Texas Posts 456 Re: short and simple! If you have sea-salt, you don't need the non-iodized salt. I use this formula 1/2 tbsp. + 3/4 tsp. Sea Salt 1/8 tsp. Epsom Salt 1/8 tsp. baking Soda A pinch of eggs. 10 oz. Distilled Water I add all of that in at once, then add water. I don't wait 24 hours for growing regular brine shrimp, but I do wait the 24 hours for the sea-monkeys.    Report

03-27-2006, 7:35 PM Super_Monkey Joined on 03-27-2006 Adelaide, Australia Posts 140 Re: short and simple! You are cool SeaMonkeyMan! I'm going to try it out :)    Report

03-27-2006, 8:00 PM chunky monkey Joined on 02-04-2006 usa Posts 963 Re: short and simple! how much more would you add for a 12oz instead of 10oz tank    Report

03-27-2006, 10:17 PM SeaMonkeyMan Joined on 03-15-2006 Texas Posts 456 Re: short and simple! What type are you using? If it is a Sea-Monkey tank, then it will be 10oz. That is why the tell you to fill it to the top edge of the top magnifier of the Ocean Zoo. That is 10oz. The whole container is 12 oz, but you never fill the whole thing up.    Report

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